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Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another heavy issue to explain away!

by Owl Cafe & Filling Station <ethyl@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 11, 2008 at 09:05 PM

On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:00:54 GMT, "David Morgan \(MAMS\)"
<findme@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> mumbled:

>
>"Owl Cafe & Filling Station" <ethyl@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:febdt3t1coh6jb4iu06k7tn7c7p3u952hf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 09:20:09 GMT, "David Morgan \(MAMS\)"
>> <findme@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> mumbled:
>>
>> >
>> >"Owl Cafe & Filling Station" <ethyl@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote...
>> >
>> >> You are crazy and working for OPEC---but we KNEW that!
>> >
>> >
>> >I take it you failed to read the article and look at the references.
>> >
>> >Nothing short of 100% biofuel will do anything to alter the oil / fuel
crisis.
>>
>> Wrong - a combination of several biofuels AND increased conservation
>> from highe mileage vehicles will do plenty.
>
>
>Mileage standards are a complete and utter farce. 

They may be, as implemented by the feds anyway, but higher mileage
vehicles are not!

> In 1965, Popular Mechanics
>magazine unvelied the 60 MPG carbureator story.... big oil bought it up
and
>buried it. 

Really?

CITE?!?!?

> In the beginning of the history of automobiles, the were more
>electric cars on the road than there were gasoline powered cars.  

And steam, don't forget steam.

>Mileage
>standards have been cast aside in favor of "Average MPG" manufacturing.
>As long as the manufacturer makes a high MPG vehicle, he can also make
>gas-guzzling road-hogs so long as the "Average MPG" meets a new and
>very loose standard.

Certainly fleet averages have allowed this end run, true.

>The only "high mileage," non-polluting vehicle, is an electric car.

Like the Tesla or the Phoenix, yes.

>Who killed the electric car?

Not so generous motors.

>  George W. Bush and Dick Cheney - oil crooks.

They killed it eh?

Cite?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_EV1

In late 2003, GM officially canceled the EV1 program.[11][12] Despite
unfulfilled waiting lists and positive feedback from the lessees, GM
stated that it could not sell enough of the cars to make the EV1
profitable. In fact, during the later stages of development for the
car, GM officials claimed that they stood no chance of ever making a
profit on the EV1 itself.[citation needed]

Instead, the company hoped that the EV1 would prove their technology
and establish a "leadership" position within the electric vehicle
market. GM itself did not expect to turn a profit on electric vehicles
for perhaps ten years after bringing the EV1 to market.[citation
needed] The end came when GM decided it was cheaper to sue the State
of California to roll back clean vehicle regulations than it was to
build electric vehicles.[citation needed] GM stated that they spent
over US$1 billion developing and marketing the EV1, though a portion
of this cost was defrayed by the Clinton Administration's US$1.25
billion Partnership for a New Generation of Vehicles (PNGV)
project.[13][14][15] All manufacturers seeking to produce electric
cars for market consumption also benefitted from matching government
funds committed to the United States Advanced Battery Consortium. The
estimated research and development costs for the EV1 program to
production (prior to marketing and sale costs) was pegged by General
Motors as "slightly less than US$500 million".

When canceling the program, GM also cited a lack of demand for the
two-seater, particularly in light of its limited range and its
suitability to "warm weather" states only.[citation needed] During the
EV1's development phase, several Northeastern states moved to pass ZEV
laws similar to those adopted in California.[citation needed] General
Motors, along with many other prospective EV manufacturers, opposed
this movement[citation needed] despite the likelihood that such
legislation would have vastly increased the market for the vehicle.
While this may seem a sinister position to have taken, GM's internal
research showed that the EV1's range would be reduced by as much as
50% for use in cold-weather states.[citation needed] This was due
chiefly to the effect of ambient temperature on both the batteries and
the special low rolling resistance tires.[

>   "America is a quarter of a billion people totally misinformed and
>    disinformed by their government. This is tragic but our media is -- I
>    wouldn't even say corrupt -- it's just beyond telling us anything
that
>    the government doesn't want us to know."
>                                           -- Gore Vidal

Gore Vidal is an evil little faggot.




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Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
Owl Cafe & Filling St  2008-03-11 05:51:41 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
"David Morgan \(MAMS  2008-03-11 09:20:09 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
Lobby Dosser <lobby.do  2008-03-11 10:31:39 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
"David Morgan \(MAMS  2008-03-11 17:54:44 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
Owl Cafe & Filling St  2008-03-11 21:07:20 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
"David Morgan \(MAMS  2008-03-12 03:58:18 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
Owl Cafe & Filling St  2008-03-12 04:07:10 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
"David Morgan \(MAMS  2008-03-12 04:16:25 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
Owl Cafe & Filling St  2008-03-12 04:25:16 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
"David Morgan \(MAMS  2008-03-12 04:39:03 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
Owl Cafe & Filling St  2008-03-12 04:47:49 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
Kurt Ullman <kurtullma  2008-03-12 08:34:33 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
"David Morgan \(MAMS  2008-03-12 16:18:11 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
Kurt Ullman <kurtullma  2008-03-12 12:34:03 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
"David Morgan \(MAMS  2008-03-12 16:50:20 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
Owl Cafe & Filling St  2008-03-12 17:29:34 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
"David Morgan \(MAMS  2008-03-13 16:45:46 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
Banning <pep@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-13 22:05:06 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
Owl Cafe & Filling St  2008-03-12 17:24:59 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
"David Morgan \(MAMS  2008-03-13 16:49:11 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
Banning <pep@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-13 22:05:06 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
Owl Cafe & Filling St  2008-03-12 17:17:11 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
"David Morgan \(MAMS  2008-03-12 04:24:44 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
Lobby Dosser <lobby.do  2008-03-12 09:58:45 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
Lobby Dosser <lobby.do  2008-03-12 09:57:45 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
Owl Cafe & Filling St  2008-03-11 15:15:17 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
"David Morgan \(MAMS  2008-03-11 18:00:54 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
Owl Cafe & Filling St  2008-03-11 21:05:12 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
"David Morgan \(MAMS  2008-03-12 04:12:45 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
Owl Cafe & Filling St  2008-03-12 04:24:11 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
"David Morgan \(MAMS  2008-03-12 04:32:47 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
Owl Cafe & Filling St  2008-03-12 04:47:15 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
"David Morgan \(MAMS  2008-03-12 06:58:00 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
"David Morgan \(MAMS  2008-03-12 04:19:08 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
Lobby Dosser <lobby.do  2008-03-12 10:02:36 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
"David Morgan \(MAMS  2008-03-12 16:23:53 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
Lobby Dosser <lobby.do  2008-03-12 21:53:05 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
Owl Cafe & Filling St  2008-03-12 17:17:07 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
Don Homuth <dhomuthone  2008-03-12 07:22:49 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
"David Morgan \(MAMS  2008-03-12 16:24:25 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
Owl Cafe & Filling St  2008-03-12 17:17:11 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
Don Homuth <dhomuthone  2008-03-12 11:43:37 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
Kurt Ullman <kurtullma  2008-03-12 14:52:13 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
Lobby Dosser <lobby.do  2008-03-12 21:55:57 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
"David Morgan \(MAMS  2008-03-13 16:53:09 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
"gatt" <admi  2008-03-13 10:42:05 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
"Ermine Todd III&quo  2008-03-13 05:06:07 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
Bill Shatzer <bshatzer  2008-03-12 22:24:05 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
Banning <pep@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-14 16:27:24 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
Lobby Dosser <lobby.do  2008-03-12 10:00:33 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
Bill Shatzer <bshatzer  2008-03-12 12:56:50 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
Owl Cafe & Filling St  2008-03-12 20:07:30 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
"David Morgan \(MAMS  2008-03-13 16:56:45 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
Banning <pep@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-13 22:05:05 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
Don Homuth <dhomuthone  2008-03-14 09:14:21 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
Banning <pep@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-14 16:27:24 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
"David Morgan \(MAMS  2008-03-14 16:53:49 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
"David Morgan \(MAMS  2008-03-11 18:02:22 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
Owl Cafe & Filling St  2008-03-11 21:05:35 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
"David Morgan \(MAMS  2008-03-12 04:02:12 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
Owl Cafe & Filling St  2008-03-12 04:10:16 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
"David Morgan \(MAMS  2008-03-12 04:17:19 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
Owl Cafe & Filling St  2008-03-11 19:47:44 
Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another
Lobby Dosser <lobby.do  2008-03-12 09:59:41 

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