Re: The deaf, dumb, and blind biofuel cultists have yet another heavy issue to explain away!

On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:11:08 -0700 (PDT), Curt
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>On Mar 11, 6:02 pm, Owl Cafe & Filling Station <et...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:06:13 -0700 (PDT), Curt
>> <obadiahly...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >On Mar 11, 2:04 pm, "gatt" <ad...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >> "Owl Cafe & Filling Station" <et...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >> > On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:59:11 -0700, "gatt"
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>> >> >>As usual.   The talk show hosts, political journalists and
politicians
>> >> >>should just STFU about biofuel.
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>> >> > Why?
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>> >> > If you really want it to happen you would understand that raising
>> >> > awareness is key.
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>> >> I didn't make my point clearly there.  I meant to say, the should
stop
>> >> criticizing biofuel research.  As in the old example of the IBM
executive
>> >> ridiculing the idea of a personal computer, criticizing research
never got
>> >> anything built.
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>> >We shouldn't be criticizing it. But I'm not so sure we should be
>> >subsidizing corn ethanol. That there, that's a scam.
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>> Nope.
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>> It's a transition until cellulosic and switchgrass gets going.
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>I'm all for it. Let's see if we can get more energy out than in. So
>far we can't, and thus our subsidies to ADM are merely .. a gift .. to
>ADM.

Fool, if we do NOTHING the technology never EVOLVES!

No infrastructure for production can be built without INVESTMENT!

Why are you so fucking STUPID????

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>> >The Brazilians can make it work.
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>> Cane sugar has a higher energy content. We need to plant sugar beets.
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>And not subsidize them.

Damn you are one stupid fucking OAF!

The way to INSURE a replacement technology takes hold is to INCENT IT!

Would you please, please buy a fucking economics textbook and READ the
damned thing!

http://www.usda.gov/oce/EthanolSugarFeasibilityReport3.pdf

The cost of converting sugar beets into ethanol was estimated to be
approximately $2.35 per gallon based on 2003-04 sugar beet market
prices and estimated sugar
beet processing costs. Feedstock cost was estimated at $1.58 per
gallon of ethanol produced,
representing 67 percent of the total ethanol production cost. These
estimates may understate the
relative profitability of converting sugarcane and sugar beets into
ethanol, compared with
processing sugarcane into raw sugar and sugar beets into refined
sugar, due to price increases for
raw and refined sugar in recent months following the hurricanes in
Florida and Louisiana in
2005. While sugar production is expected to rebound in 2006/07, U.S.
sugar prices will likely
remain considerably above forfeiture levels.