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Re: World running out of wheat because of biofuel hoax. US TV media ignores story! Censor****ip or stupidity?

by "Ivan" <ivan'H'older@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 25, 2008 at 12:55 PM

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> The technology to do this has evolved tremendously. You can make just
> about any fuel out of plant matter, from Natural gas to methanol to
> diesel   to DME (for plastics).  Synthetic biofuels from crop waste,
> timber waste and garbage  is definitely a smarter way to go than grain
> alcohols. If done intelligently and done at sufficient scale can
> certainly compete with $2. to $3. a gallon at the pump.
>
However whatever way one looks at it I honestly can't see any alternative
as 
cheap and simple as sticking a pipe in the ground and pumping out decades 
worth of dirt cheap, incredibly versatile and relatively secure energy 
supplies.

I have to confess to not knowing very much about the subject, but looking
at 
the figures in the OP it would appear that when the oil rich Middle East
was 
opened up in 1908 the world boasted 1.7 billion people and 'compared to 
today' a minuscule demand for oil based products.

If there is any truth in the predictions that we have about reached the 
halfway mark in recoverable oil resources, then where would we be now if
say 
100 years ago we had started pumping Middle East oil from a base of world 
demand standing at its present level and a global population of 6.6
billion 
(expected to grow to around 10 billion within the next 50 years) with many

of them expecting their governments to deliver our Western style standard
of 
living?

Lastly I would hazard a guess that it's very unlikely that given the ever 
increasing global demand whatever we do with bio, coal, oil shale and 
remaining sources of oil and gas that we're ever going to go back to the 
halcyon dirt cheap energy that even I can remember.












> On Feb 24, 3:24 pm, "calderh...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
" <calderh...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> wrote:
> The world is running out of wheat because so many farmers have


> Christopher Calder
 




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Re: World running out of wheat because of biofuel hoax. US TV me
"Ivan" <ivan  2008-02-25 12:55:36 
Re: World running out of wheat because of biofuel hoax. US TV me
"David Morgan \(MAMS  2008-02-28 08:23:06 

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