Run along freddy, you are wrong again -- parts of Iraq certainly were
within the Persian Empire.
Why do you right wigners fail at everything.
In <5qsr149j29irlni65qcf4qlnt9vrejt7ua@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, on 05/04/2008
at 10:47 AM, Fred J. McCall <fmccall@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> said:
>"David Morgan \(MAMS\)" <findme@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>:
>:"Fred J. McCall" <fmccall@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>:> "David Morgan \(MAMS\)" <findme@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>:>
>:> :
>:> :"Fred J. McCall" <fmccall@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message...
>:> :
>:> :> "David Morgan \(MAMS\)" <findme@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>:> :
>:> :> :Saddam is irrelevant.... the CIA handled his rise
>:
>:> :> Lie.
>:
>:> :Which part ??
>:
>:> Pretty much all of it.
>:
>:> :> 'Persia' is *Iran*, not Iraq.
>:
>:> :Excuse me ?? About like the USA is Texas.
>:
>:> You're not excused. Silly parallel irrelevant.
>:
>:Percentage of land mass occupied to subject area is about equivalent
>:to your claim that Iran was ALL of Persia. There was no silliness there
>:excepting your bogus claim.
>:
>All of the Persian Empire was not 'Persia' any more than all of the
>British Empire was 'Britain' or all of the Ottoman Empire was 'Turkey'.
>Buy a dictionary and look up 'Iran'. You'll find that it was called
>'Persia' until the 1930s. Iraq was never called 'Persia'.
>:> :Best find a nice OLD map, or merely have a go at something
historical.
>:> :"Wiki" seems to believe that Mesopotamia is all there was to Persia.
>:> :Kings Darius and Xerxes would tell of a different history for the
lands
>:> :of Persia.
>:> :
>:> :Basically, Persia was everything you call the Middle East today, plus
some.
>:> :
>:> :Persia originated in the area now know as Iran. Iran however, didn't
>:> :exist for some time to come. Persia extened into western Russia,
>:> :Western and Central Asia, northern Africa, and what became known
>:> :as Turkey, Israel, Iran, Iraq, Armenia, Afghanistan, Syria, Pakistan,
>:> :Caucasia, (Saudi) Arabia, etc... although it's really not doing the
>:> :dynasty any justice to try and place it's holdings by using current
>:> :'state' names.
>:
>:> You could just as easily claim the whole region was 'Turkey' based on
>:> the Ottoman centuries. Peoples and cultures originate in places. The
>:> fact that the British Empire at one point encompassed Canada and
>:> Australia doesn't make either Canada or Australia 'Britain'.
>:
>:You're making my point FOR me again. Persia was *not* just Iraq
>:as you claimed in error earlier.
>:
>You can't read. MY claim is that Iraq is *NOT* Persia; IRAN is Persia.
>:Aside: both Canada and Australia have English as a language. I'd
>:say that certifies the effect felt by the British Empire.
>Nobody said anything about 'effects'. Is it your contention that Canada
>can correctly be referred to as 'Britain'? Is it your contention that
>Australia can correctly be referred to as 'Britain'?
>As for 'effects', let's examine Iran and Iraq, shall we? Iranians are
>ethnically different from Iraqis.
>Iranians are: Persian 51%, Azerbaijani 24%, Gilaki and Mazandarani 8%,
>Kurd 7%, Arab 3%, Lur 2%, Baloch 2%, Turkmen 2%, other 1%. Note how
>small that Arab minority is.
>Iraqis are: Arab 75% 80%, Kurdish 15% 20%, Turkoman, Assyrian, or other
>5%. Note that 'Persian' doesn't even get mentioned.
>Iranians speak Farsi. Iraqis speak Arabic or Kurdish.
>The two cultures are very different. Yet you keep trying to act as if
>'Iraq' and 'Persia' are the same.
>:
>:> :> :is also fairly irrelevant unless it spans a couple of
>:> :> :thousand years of *real* Persian history.... not just what your
>:> :> :government wants you to see in order to garner continued sup****t
>:> :> :for their phony war to steal the natural resources of Iraq.
>:
>:> :> ANY evidence of such 'theft'?
>:
>:> :Duhhh..... care to open your eyes?
>:
>:> Lack of evidence noted.
>:
>:Blindness and voluntary ignorance noted. ;-)
>:
>Attempt to divert attention by personal attack noted.
>Continuing lack of evidence noted.
>:> :> Hell, we're not even making them pay
>:> :> for all the money we're spending trying to put their
>:> :> oil industry back on its feet.
>:
>:> :So what the hell are you driving at ? Would you like to make any
>:> :MORE of my points FOR me ?? Iran and Iraq both have a HUGE
>:> :budgetary surplus, while the US is rapidly going bankrupt in a last-
>:> :ditch effort by the cor****ate Coup D'Etat of 2000 to scrape some
>:> :more cash out of *your* pocketbook off of the OIL which is failing
>:> :to come from Iraq.
>:
>:> Whatever you were ingesting, smoking, or shooting when you wrote the
>:> preceding is something you should probably be abstaining from.
>:
>:Nice, fact-filled rebuttal.
>:
>:Have a nice day Fred.
>:
>One doesn't rebut lunacy with facts. The loon has already
>demonstrated that they are impervious to facts.
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