March 31, 2008 at 17:24:09
9/11: Did Barbara Olson really call Ted Olson on 9/11?
"Discussion" with Larry King.
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LARRY KING, HOST, LARRY KING LIVE: Tonight we have an unexpected guest,
Mr. Ted Olson, the
former Solicitor General under George W. Bush. Our "discussion" ... Did
Barbara Olson really
call Ted Olson on 9/11?
9/11: Did Barbara Olson really call Ted Olson on 9/11? “Discussion” with
Larry King.
LARRY KING, HOST, LARRY KING LIVE: Tonight we have an unexpected guest,
Mr. Ted Olson, the
former Solicitor General under George W. Bush. Ted is here tonight under
unusual cir***stances.
I say that because tonight we were planning on having another good debate
about what really did
happen on that fateful day back in 2001, 9/11. Popular Mechanics magazine
was to send their top
expert regarding the scientific evidence of 9/11 to debate a previous
debater we had here a few
weeks back. We had a Mr. GNIST here sup****ting the claim by NIST, the
National Institute of
Standards and Technology, that “Heavy Dust Brought Down Twin Towers.” But
after seeing the
transcript from that debate -- we thought it was only fair that Popular
Mechanics be able to
review it since they apparently had not seen the actual debate -- they
apparently had a change
of heart, not to mention, change of mind. So we were fortunate that
someone spotted Ted Olson
down in the lobby reading the script of his arguments made to the Supreme
Court back in 2000
and he was kind enough to join us.
King: Ted, thanks for coming up and filling in. When Popular Mechanics
canceled out, or as I
think someone said, called in sick, we were kind of stuck. Anyway,
that case you argued in 2000, Bush v. Gore, is that how you say it Ted,
Bush “vee” Gore or
should it be Bush versus Gore?
Olson: Saying “vee” is just fine. And you are welcome Larry, I’m glad I am
able to help out by
filling in.
King: Does reading that transcript bring back a lot of memories, after all
that was a really
im****tant case? And it was decided in favor of Bush by a narrow majority.
There was even
controversy among the justices the way it was handled. A lot of people say
that changed the
course of history. They say this would be a different world if they had
been allowed to
continue counting all of those ballots and Al Gore was elected. Anyway,
I’m sure we at least
would have heard a lot more about those drowning polar bears and melting
ice caps. Someone
showed me the cutest picture of a polar bear hugging a big dog the other
day. But anyway Ted,
thanks again for coming up. ... Ted, you said something interesting back
in 2002. You told the
Supreme Court, “It's easy to imagine an infinite number of situations
where the government
might legitimately give out false information.” What did you mean by that?
Olson: Well Larry, I think it speaks for itself.
King: I guess so but, “infinite” covers an awful lot of situations. And
giving out “false”
information is the same as lying, right?
Olson: You might say that Larry, but there are some things as you might
imagine that its best
for the people to not know.
King: Such as? ... Well I won’t push you. But geez, when you say
“infinite” that could mean we
are being lied to all of the time. Doesn’t it? Something doesn’t quite
feel right about that
Ted. Maybe they didn’t mean “government of the people, by the people and
for the people”
applied all of the time. I don’t know. .... Ted I don’t
think I gave you a proper introduction. Ted Olson of course for those of
you watching, lost his
charming wife Barbara who was in the plane that struck the Pentagon on
9/11. She had been a
frequent guest here on Larry King live. I know everyone would agree she
had a great smile. Ted,
I Know you appeared to be holding up so well right after that happened. In
fact you came on my
show just, I think it was, just three days after that horrible day. Have
you been able to
completely get over it? I’m sure you miss her.
Olson: It took a long time Larry, and well, I guess I’ll never be
completely over it.
King: I didn’t mean to say “completely” over it but, well ... you know
what I mean. We talked a
little bit about this right afterwards .... you were able to speak with
Barbara from the airplane.
Olson: Yes Larry, she called me twice. She told me the plane had been
hijacked and the
hijackers had herded everyone to the back of the plane, including the
pilots.
King: That’s amazing. I mean, did the pilots simply get up and walk to the
back of the plane? I
mean the Captain, Charles Burlingame -- I’m pretty sure that was his name,
was described as a
rugged, athletic guy. And he was a former Navy pilot. Those guys are
really tough.
Olson: Well, Larry, all I know is what Barbara told me. But I’m sure
pilots are just as afraid
of cardboard box cutters as anyone else. And when someone points a
cardboard box cutter at you,
you surrender your airplane. After all, if they kill you, who is going to
do the flying?
King: Beats me, but how do you fly the airplane from back in coach?
.............. CNN re****ted
at 2:06 AM EDT that Barbara had called you on her cell phone. That was
only what, 15 ... 16,
hours after her plane had crashed into the Pentagon? You got that
information to us right away.
Maybe because you were grieving about losing Barbara, you decided to call
CNN after midnight.
I’m sure you couldn’t sleep .... Then, on this show on September the 14th,
we talked about the
phone calls she made to you. That was lucky that she had her cell phone
with her so she could call.
Olson: I guess you could say that, lucky I mean. Because she had her cell
phone, I did get to
talk with her. She was so calm and in control.
King: I remember too that you said the second call suddenly went dead. I
have the transcript of
that show here in front of me and you said, you thought the call went dead
“because the signals
from cell phones coming from airplanes don’t work that well.”
Olson: Yes, that was no doubt the reason, Larry. I remember thinking the
cell phone connection
must have been lost.
King: Excuse me Ted. Timmy!! You made it! Tim I’m sorry we couldn’t get a
hold of you. Popular
Mechanics didn’t show up. It’s too bad your dad had to drive you all of
the way down here. How
are you? You haven’t grown any in the last few weeks I see.
Timmy: No sir. I’m still the second shortest in my class.
King: Tim, you are late again, ha ha. Maybe by the time you get to be
eleven years old you’ll
learn to be on time.
Timmy: Yea, my dad got lost again. He kept singing some song about,
they’ll never find us caus’
we’ll be driiivin’ driiivin’ .... I thought he was going to be right. But
at least we finally
made it.
King: Timmy, this is Mr Olson. Coincidentally he has ties to 9/11 which is
what you were going
to debate tonight with those Popular Mechanics.
Timmy: Hello Mr. Olson. I’m very sorry to hear about Mrs. Olson. I was
listening in to the show
while my dad was singing.
Olson: Thank you Timmy. Nice to meet you.
King: I hear we have one very persistent caller so let’s get right to the
phones. This is from
.... somewhere in Iowa. Go ahead caller...
Caller: No airplane cell phone calls in 2001.
King: I’m sorry, you say no airplane cell phone calls in 2001?
Caller: Correct. Airplane cell phone calls impossible. Even government
agrees. Plus: FBI say
‘no cell phone call.’
King: That’s interesting. I hadn’t heard that before. Had you heard that
before Ted? Caller how
do you know this?
Caller: Moussaoui. Moussaoui trial.
Olson: Larry, I think I know where the caller is going with this. Its been
a while, but I
remember now. And yes, the caller is right. Its been proven that cell
phone calls like this
from airplanes were not possible back in 2001. In addition Larry, having
been the Solicitor
General I do tend to follow court cases. And in the Moussaoui trial, the
FBI provided evidence
that Barbara did try to call me only once. And in fact, that call lasted
all of zero seconds.
King: Zero seconds!? Given all of the things she said to you she must have
talked really fast.
Olson: No Larry, what they were saying was that she didn’t connect with me
by cell phone.
King: That would explain then why .............. we’ve got a really good
staff here. I mean we
didn’t even know you were going to be here for more than a few minutes
Ted, and they managed to
get all of this information to me. I’m sorry .... what was I saying?
...... Oh yes, I guess
that would explain why you said on Hannity and Colmes just before you came
on with me that
Barbara must have used an “airplane phone” and called you collect because
as you said, “she
somehow didn’t have access to her credit cards.”
Olson: Larry, I forgot, I’ve been through this before. She did call me
from an airplane phone.
I remember she called me collect because she didn’t have her credit cards.
King: Ted, this is getting confusing. First you called CNN only hours
after the crash and said
she called you on her cell phone. Then, just three days later you appeared
on FOX and said she
used an “airplane” phone. Right after that you came on here Ted, and said
again she called you
using a cell phone. Ted, I think you can understand why I’m confused. So
which was it Ted, a
cell phone or an airplane phone? Just curious.
Olson: It was a seat back phone, Larry.
King: You mean one of those phones in the back of the seat.
Olson: Yes Larry, that is what I mean.
KIng: It sounds like you remember because you remember she didn’t have her
credit cards.
Interesting.
King: Ok, back to the phones. From Dallas Texas, caller go ahead.
Caller: No seat back phones.
King: Excuse me, I think you said, no seat back phones. What does that
mean?
Caller: American Airlines 757’s didn’t have seat back phones.
King: So you’re saying Barbara Olson could not have called using a seat
back phone? Is that
correct caller? How do you know this?
Caller: That is correct. No seat back call from an American Airlines’ 757.
I work for American
Airlines. Don’t give out my name.
King: Ted? No seat back phones.
Olson: Larry, as an ex-Solicitor General, I can follow the argument: FBI:
no cell phone call,
American Airlines: no seat back phone. Therefore, how two calls? Pretty
good argument if I
don’t say so myself.
King: And?
Olson: We’ll be right back after the break.
King: Ted, you’re not the one that says “we’ll be right back after the
break,” I’m the one who
says “we’ll be right back after the break.” We’ll be right back after the
break!
(the break)
King: We’re back. Ted, how two phone calls?
Olson: Walkie Talkie.
King: I’m sorry, what did you say?
Olson: Walkie Talkie.
Timmy: Mr. King, I think he said, “walkie talkie.”
King: Thank you Timmy, I heard it the second time. Ted, you’re saying
Barbara called you using
a “walkie talkie?”
Olson: Must have been. What other option is there?
King: I understand, but “walkie talkie?”
Olson: They’re pretty good these days. Technology these days is
incredible. Have you heard of
“voice morphing?”
King: I wouldn’t know, Ted. But “walkie talkie?”
Timmy: This is pretty interesting stuff.
King: I would have to agree Timmy. Imagine, walkie talkies working from
airplanes. If it
weren’t for walkie talkies, I guess, how would we have ever known they
used cardboard cutters?
We would all be wondering how in the heck were they able to hijack those
airplanes. By the way,
here is an interesting fact I remember coming across: Did you know that on
9/11, it was the
Airlines that operated air****t security and their manuals prohibited box
cutters? That’s right,
box cutters weren’t allowed on airplanes! It makes you wonder how they
were able to get all of
those box cutters they must have had past those security people and those
x-ray machines? And
different ones at that! Screeners were told to call their supervisors if
box cutters were
found. ... Timmy, you have something to say?
Timmy: Excuse me Mr King. Mr Olson, let me see if I’ve got this straight;
I know I’m short, but
this isn’t that complicated. If it wasn’t a cell phone, and it wasn’t a
seat back phone, and
with all due respect Mr. Olson, I think its safe to rule out walkie
talkies; then did she
really call you at all? Mr. Olson, you seem pretty honest. So, if you are
telling the truth,
maybe it was that “voice morphing” you were talking about. I read that for
a lot of years now,
they have been able to copy and mimic someone’s voice really easy using
computers so that it
can be used in place of someone else talking. You know, so that I could
talk and it would sound
just like you. I guess its so good you can even fool a spouse. And you
were Mrs. Olson’s
spouse, so maybe you got fooled. Mr. Olson, I guess its either that or you
are fudging the truth.
King: Ted, are you OK? Ted? Ted, the bathroom is over there.
King: Tim, its looks like we won’t have time to get a response from Mr.
Olson. But I’m glad you
were able to make it Timmy. GOOD NIGHT EVERYONE!
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(OFF THE AIR)
King: Ted, are you ok? You were in there for a long time. Timmy and I have
been talking about
how “fishy” -- Tim’s word -- these phone calls are. It made me think again
of that statement
you made “It's easy to imagine an infinite number of situations where the
government might
legitimately give out false information.” But why would they give out
false information about
Barbara’s phone calls only hours after the crash? I guess when you said
“infinite” that could
cover just about anything; I mean “infinite” is a big number. Not that I’m
saying there is any
lying going on, but Ted, you have to agree it is “fishy.” So why don’t we
just agree to call it
“fishy,” ok Ted? Ted? Are you ok? You look a little peaked.
Timmy: You know, I just thought of something: Since we’re in a “trillion
dollar” war because of
this 9/11 stuff, I’ll bet we can afford a thousand dollars or so to get
the phone records and
put this thing to rest? It sure seems pretty simple to me. Then if the
phone records show that
Mrs. Olson really did call, that would get Mr. Olson “off the hook” so to
speak. Then, they can
try to put to rest --( good luck!) -- all of the other
9/11-light-bulb-“virtual proofs” I read
about.
King: But what if she didn’t call, Tim? I mean, .... well, maybe we better
leave it there.
Pentagon - no wing impact
Pentagon Hole
Tim: Mr. King, its enough to make you start thinking again about how DID
that great big 757
that Mrs. Olson was supposedly on fit through that little hole in the
wall? Here, look at these
pictures I brought along. I was going to show it to that “expert” from
Popular Mechanics. It
doesn’t look to me like a 757 could have fit through there. Maybe the 757
really did miss all
of those light poles by a long shot and actually flew over the Pentagon
without hitting it like
the Flight Data Recorder showed according to the data provided by the
NTSB; which is kind of
like the government. You know Mr. King, that little white missile-like
thing that didn’t look
anything like a 757 in that one video the government finally let us see,
I’ll bet that would
have fit very nicely through that little hole. Boy, its funny how
everything starts making
sense when ...
King: Like when Willie Nelson debated Bill Maher right here and explained
why he’s sure the
Twin Towers were ‘imploded.’
Tim: And like that “Heavy Dust” Mr. GNIST tried to say crushed those
Towers.
King: And when the Italian ex-President said its common knowledge among
global intelligence
agencies that the CIA planned and carried out the attacks on 9/11.
Tim: And maybe all of this is why they are debating the truth about 9/11
in the Japanese
Parliament. And what about the thousands of patriotsfor911truth,
physicistsfor911truth,
architechturalengineersfor911truth, veteransfor911truth,
pilotsfor911truth,
scholarsfor911truth, canadiensfor911truth, Irishfor911truth,
Scottsfor911truth,
Newfoundlandersfor911truth, Australiansfor911truth, people and scientists
and politicians from
all around the world for 911truth. .... I’m pretty good at memorizing
lists.
King: Boy I guess! That was some list. But I think maybe we should stop
here, Timmy. I think
our mikes are still on.
King: There, I think the mikes are off now. Tim, thanks for recommending
the book, “The Shell
Game.” I couldn’t put it down, no kidding. That Ace Futrell, what a
character. Ted, you want to
read a great book? Ted? Are you ok?
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I hope you, the reader, realize this discussion never actually took place.
However, the
relevant facts themselves are true and verifiable. The “discussion” is
meant to put the “phone
calls” -- if indeed they never took place as is almost certainly the case
-- into proper
perspective and context. Other reasons to doubt that the phone calls ever
took place can be
found at www.pilotsfor911truth. And this, like SO many other suspect
things relating to 9/11,
could be easily addressed by the government, yet they refuse to do so.
Alten's The Shell Game in combo with Griffin's 9/11 Contradictions
9/11: Bill Maher Debates Willie Nelson. Hosted by Mr. Larry King.
9/11 NIST: Heavy Dust Brought Down Twin Towers - Debate Hosted by Larry
King
9/11: How many virtual proofs does it take to turn on the 9/11 light bulb
in people's minds?
Japanese Senator for 9/11 Truth Calls for Movement to Step Beyond Internet
– Steve Alten
Answers the Call
Europe for 9/11 Truth Evening at the European Parliament !
30 Sec Action Alert!
Author Steve Alten Of "The Shell Game" At Barnes & Noble
Debunking 9/11 Debunking: An Answer to Popular Mechanics and Other
Defenders of the Official
Conspiracy Theory
Watch the NEAT Trailers at www.theshellgame.net
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