NIGEL BROOKS CAN THO MELTON ATTACK - 2ND REBUTTAL
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1. Mr. Sp4 Nigel Brooks said I was asleep in my BEQ when the January 13,
1969 attacks on the Can Tho Army base and POW camp took place.
Statements such as these indicate to me that Sp4 draftee Brooks (two
whole years in service as a personnel clerk) is sorely unknowledgeable
about Can Tho, the 1969 January attack, the US Army, the duties of an
NCO, the US Army in General, the functions of a base under attack, the
functions of a large BEQ such as the Melton when such an attack occurs,
how the Melton was structured, how the defenses for the Melton were
organized and placed on the outside walkways, entrances and roof top of
the Melton, life in general in Vietnam for a NCO, especially a Senior
NCO housed in a BEQ containing hundreds of enlisted men, and just about
everything else you can imagine about this incident. And I am sure I
have left out much that Nigel Brooks is clearly clueless about.
The Melton BEQ
2. The Melton BEQ at Can Tho Vietnam was an old French type Hotel that
was several stories high that was converted into a large BEQ for
enlisted men. Enlisted men from several different units in the Can Tho
area occupied the Melton, and I was permanently (and sometimes
tem****arily) assigned to that Melton BEQ for quarters. The bottom floor
of the BEQ contained our Armory which was more than a company size
armory. The old Hotel/BEQ had chicken wire plastered on the front of the
hotel all the way up several stories to stop Charlie from driving by on
the main street (which ran right in front of the hotel) and lobbing
grenades into the hotel, which occurred frequently enough to warrant the
chicken wire.
2-a. There were also two adjacent buildings to the Melton that were not
quite as high as the Melton. Both of those adjacent buildings were
whorehouses, and the men in the Melton, from the roof and from their EM
club, could see the whores sunning themselves, or doing their ubiquitous
wa****ng, chomping rice, and giggling together on their rooftops from the
vantage point of the Melton's rooftop NCO and EM Clubs. Moreover, from
our rooftop we could also clearly see the Can Tho airfield and base, and
in fact we could even see the distant air base at Bein Thuy when all of
its lights were on or it was under mortar attack, which also happened
frequently.
2-b. The Melton had corridor walkways around the outside of each floor
and the rooms were entered from the outside corridor. (Typical French
Indochina architecture.) My room was near the top of the Melton, and
most of the time two other SFC E-7's and I represented the ranking NCO's
billeted in the Melton. My NCO room was also facing the Can Tho Airbase.
2-c. There was an extremely narrow and dangerous stone spiral staircase
in the middle of the Hotel that led all the way up to the rooftop. (That
staircase was hard enough to navigate sober, not to mention after a
night of drinking and poker, and to get to your room you had to navigate
that staircase if you were in one of the clubs on the roof). The roof of
the BEQ was where I and the rest of the NCO's spent most of our time
eating, drinking and playing poker and watching the whores do their
thing.
Tag the Whore
3. The side of the Hotel between the Hotel and the first Whorehouse
contained thousands of empty beer cans, about one story high, that
represented evidence of thousands of past beer can tosses at the whores
by the men. Some men found great s****t in tossing empty (and some not so
empty) beer cans at the whores when they came out on their roofs to do
whatever whores do on roofs. Sometimes the whores would carry little
umbrellas and run as fast as they could when they were on their roofs
due to the barrage of beer cans their presence was sure to evoke each
time they ventured out onto their roofs. Some of the whores would
intelligently run out of their roof door, stop, wait a second then
quickly run back into the door just before the barrage of beer cans
arrived. The whores became very adroit at ducking, dodging and faking
out the barrages of beer cans thrown at them. There also was much
gambling, hoots and laughter involved with those beer can tosses, and
there was little the NCO's could do to stop the men from their game of
"tag the whore." And of course some of the NCO's were also participants
in that tag the whore game - (I won't mention which ones).
3-a. The whores would pay back the men by stealing one of their boots
whenever the men visited the whorehouses. It was a common site on payday
to see several men limping back from one of the whorehouses with only
one boot on amidst the howls and catcalls from the other men that
spotted them trying to sneak back to the Melton. Trying to sneak back
into the Melton with one boot missing became a Chinese pennant depicting
a recent visit to one of the whorehouses. I assume the whores would
steal a left boot then a right boot, and so on. Exactly how they matched
them up later I do not know - not caring much at the time how whores
market GI footwear. Hell, they might even be boiling those boots and
eating them as far as I know considering I have yet to see something a
Vietnamese whore would not do for two dollars MPC or so.
4. All in all, and not counting the many times that Hotel came under
attack in one way or another, it was not a bad place to be housed in Can
Tho. The Melton certainly was entertaining almost on a daily basis, and
there was never a dull moment. One payday in fact I remember about a
hundred men brought their tape recorders out of their rooms and blasted
Bob Dylan's "No No No It Ain't Me Babe" song/sonnet on full volume. We
NCO's screwed up that day and allowed hard liquor to be brought into the
EM club for what the men claimed was a "special party." The entire Hotel
was rocking and vibrating, and even the whores came out on their roofs
to see what was going on. Even Vietnamese civilians walking down the
street in front of the Hotel were also stopping and watching the Hotel
in amazed curiosity. Our guards at the front of the Hotel had to chase
crowds away that day. I always remember it as the day the men all went
crazy - which duty in Can Tho was known to do to American GI's from time
to time.
My Duty Station Was in the Can Tho Army Base
5. Note first that Sp4 Nigel Brooks says my military records state I was
assigned to the 51st Maintenance Company in Can Tho for duty. Sp4 Nigel
Brooks is full of **** as usual. My military records prove otherwise,
and I even found a morning re****t noting I was assigned to the 51st only
for rations and quarters and my duty assignment was to a completely
different and very large unit located on the Can Tho Army base. (I will
send the morning re****t to one of my independent experts for
verification, but more on that later).
5-a. Bottom Line: I was very familiar with the Can Tho Army base, and I
could see both the Airfield and my duty station from the roof of the
Melton. I could even tell from the roof when my Colonel was in or out by
looking for his parked jeep in his parking spot in front of my duty
station - which at times was good information to know. From my vantage
point on the roof of the Melton, and with my Binoculars, I could also
easily see the faces of the men at the Can Tho base, the base's
buildings, the Airfield, the POW camp and the faces of the men and
prisoners at that camp, and just about everything else in that area with
very good clarity. (The POW camp and some of the ARVN positions were
along the side the Can Tho Army Airbase on the south side just across
the wire).
6. We had set up an NCO club of sorts on the roof and it was cool up
there and even during the rainy season there was enough cover to say on
the roof. Immediately outside of my room at the Melton, and to the right
of my entrance door, there was located a corner section of the corridor
t walkway around the Hotel. In each corner of the Melton's outside
corridor we had built a sandbagged defensive position with a Pig mounted
with its ammo boxes on the floor. (Pig=M-60 Machine Gun). On the Rooftop
we also had built M-60 positions, and one Ma Duce position. There were
men that were assigned to all of our defensive machine gun positions,
and there were also men assigned to rifle and grenadier positions at
various locations in and around the Hotel. We also had assigned men to
communications, rations, water bearers, ammo bearers, etc. . . .
The Melton sup****ted large iron doors on the front entrance, and guard
positions with drag wire (Barbed and Razor wire that can be dragged
together to form a wire barrier) in front of the Hotel and at all side
entrances. On alert we would button up, bring our guards inside, and
they could monitor the front of the hotel from their inside battle
positions. All battle stations at the Melton had to be instantly manned
in case of any attack on Can Tho or upon an attack on anything near us
(we were located in a suburb of the City of Can Tho) or of course upon
any attack on the Can Tho base itself. In fact, when I was located at
the Melton, we even went on alert and took battle stations at times
whenever Bein Thuy was attacked, which occurred often enough to become
bothersome for the men. Think of the Melton as a Navy ****p at sea, and
you will get the idea of our very necessary defensive positions.
6-a. So Nigel Brook's snide comment that I was fast asleep in my BEQ
when that January 1969 major attack occurred on the Can Tho base and POW
camp is about as idiotic and preposterous as you can now imagine. Sp4
Nigel Books clearly does not have a clue about the US Army, nor the
Melton, nor anything about my duties in Can Tho, nor about how we
defended ourselves, nor about alerts, nor anything about that attack in
1969. I do. Why? Because I was there.
Here is what I saw, and what I was told by the MP's the next day:
7. S****adic firing from ARVN positions far out on the left flank of the
Can Tho base woke me at about 0030 that morning. The ARVN's were
shooting at something, which was not that uncommon, but this was machine
gun fire, and lots of it. I and a few other NCO's immediately dressed
and went up to the roof with our high-powered binoculars to see what was
going on. There were no sirens going off, and the Can Tho base was
quiet. Nevertheless, off to our left the ARVN's certainly were shooting
at something. There were a lot of tracers going out from the ARVN
positions, but none coming back. So I thought they were just shooting at
shadows which they did from time to time. (I am not a fan of the ARVN -
and for good reason. Even that night they wildly fired at our base camp
when the full attack was underway, but thankfully, as usual, they hit
Maggie's Drawers).
Once again, in more detail, here is what I saw:
8. The ARVN small arms fire had us watching but not calling for an alert
because ARVN firing at shadows was not that unfrequent. However, as I
was standing on the roof watching the ARVN fire, and I don't remember
the exact time but it was on or around 0130, a "WUMPH" explosion
(usually that noise indicated incoming) suddenly occurred on the Can Tho
Airbase. The Melton was only about three miles from the base as you
drive but much closer as the Crow flies, and the explosion was easy to
see and hear. Then after that first explosion drew my instant attention,
I could positively and without question see two vehicles speeding down
the Airbase Tarmac and a series of explosions were following them.
8-a. All the initial explosions from the vehicles occurred in
approximately 30 seconds, and after perhaps the third small explosion,
then the big ones started to occur. When the big explosions started to
occur on the Airfield, (probably satchel charges) the vehicles raced to
the south side of the Airfield, found an access road that ran along the
side our wire, and started unloading all kinds of fire on the POW camp
defenses, which promptly returned the fire. (Mostly ARVN MP's manned the
POW camps but there were a few American Army MP advisors assigned there
as well). The tracers were producing what looked like red tidal waves of
fire coming from and going into the POW camp. All hell was breaking
lose, and we called a full alert for the Hotel.
8-b. The NCO's always carried their weapons but the lower ranks had to
draw them from the Armory, so the men assigned to the M-60 and 50 cal.
Positions were first to arrive at their battle stations, and the rest of
the men had to rush to draw their weapons and ammo from the Armory.
8-c. My section of the roof faced the Can Tho Army base, and the Can Tho
base was lit up like a Christmas tree. We also heard some firing behind
us toward the whorehouses and we thought Charlie might have positioned
some VC on one of the roofs of the whorehouses to keep us in the Hotel.
That position was not in my section so when I heard one of our M-60
positions open up on that side I radioed the NCO in charge of that
section and he said the man on the M-60 said he was fired on from the
roof of the whorehouse. To this day I don't know if that is true as I
did not see it. But I did see the attack on the base, clearly. By the
time I looked back at the Can Tho base after my attention was distracted
by one of our M-60's opening up on one of the whorehouses, the two
vehicles that were firing on the POW camp had already left their
positions and could not been seen. (I was told later those vehicles
simply drove away and out the gate). But as I watched satchel charges
were still going off on the Airfield, and there was lots of small arms
fire coming from all directions, including from the ARVN positions far
outside the base.
8-d. I don't know exactly how long the battle lasted but it was not
long. We however, stayed on full alert until dawn. I was told a couple
of whores were shot by one of our M-60's, but I don't know to this day
if that rumor was true. It most likely was as probably some of the
whores came out on their roof to see what was going on and one of our
men took them for VC - or just whores he wanted to shoot - we will never
really know. The next day I spoke with a Sergeant MP that was at the POW
camp and he told me they thought Charlie had used ambulances again, and
that some of the sappers had fired at our aircraft from those vehicles,
and some of the sappers had jumped out of those vehicles with satchel
charges as the vehicles were rolling down the runway toward the POW
Camp. He also said some sappers had come in through the wire. It was a
well-coordinated attack on both the airfield and the POW camp.
8-e. Some of what I am saying here is hearsay because it came from the
opinion of an MP Sergeant, but I sure as hell saw those vehicles, and so
did he. Whether they were actual Ambulances or other types of vehicles,
who knows and who cares, they certainly did drive down the Tarmac and
either shoot our Aircraft with M-79's or RPG's, and then attacked the
POW camp.
Now that we all know what happened, let's deal with some of Nigel's more
recent lies:
9. First, Sp4 Nigel Brooks' is claiming I previously said the
Information officers were liars back when John Kerry was running for
office. Nothing could be further from the truth. The testimony of the
information officers in the respect they were ordered to lie was just
recently brought to my attention. I did not even read that part of the
Winter Solider Congressional testimony back then, only the accounts of
some of the Ghengis Kahn type raping and pillaging, and I said I
certainly never had seen anything like those events.
10. But when the actual information commissioned officer confirms that
MACV ordered him to lie in his re****ts and accounts of battles, and that
fact is confirmed and corroborated by the two Brigade level information
Specialists, and even confirmed by a Marine Information Specialist, and
then again corroborated by independent news men assigned to Vietnam by
their agencies, only a complete and utter smear merchant and/or moron
would claim all of those people are lying. And if that is not enough, I
have read accounts of events in the 25th Unit Newspaper that I
personally *knew* were lies. So I can confirm these unit articles and
after action re****ts that Nigel Brooks loves to claim are the "official
accounts" of what happened are mostly bull****, and that fact has been
confirmed by direct testimony by ALL of the information officers
involved in writing and publi****ng them.
10-a. All testimony before Congress during an officially convened
investigation is considered sworn testimony. Sp4 Nigel Brooks says
otherwise. . . weeooooooooooo.
11. Sp4 Nigel Brooks is also upset with me using outside independent
experts on the US Military and the Law and not simply listening to his
gaffs and his smear gang's parroting of his lies and false accusations:
Sp4 Brooks said:
"As for your experts.......................
I am entirely confident that were they to be fully apprized of all of
the evidence which has been used to come to the conclusion that you are
a serial bull**** artiste - they would agree. In particular the usenet
postings that were taken into consideration in determining that both you
and ChipC were claiming to have been awarded the Purple Heart for wounds
received as a result of enemy action. I am also confident that you have
never provided those so called "experts" all of the relevant data -
however I can assure you that such experts will be given the op****tunity
to review the data if necessary."
Doug Says: Mr. Brooks, they have already read all of the irrelevant and
trumped up so-called evidence you have created out of thin air and they
have concluded that not only was the topic of the conversation Cards and
not Medals, but also that no honest investigator would make the claims
you have posted. Now if you have some more evidence, no typos, no
digging discarded posts from waste baskets, and no claims that my typist
and I had to read previous statements Chip had made via mind reading or
soothsaying, then I will be more than happy to present to them any
additional evidence you might wish to present, that is if it is real and
not goofy and self-serving conclusions based upon your self-acclaimed
"soothsaying, crystal balls, and irrelevant bull****."
11. Sp4 Brooks Finds Yet Another Discarded Typo!
Sp4 Brooks said:
"Now - About that claim you spent 30 years in the military and that your
last
command was an MI command (http://tinyurl.com/vyrt8).
My investigation
determined your military service was:
USMC July 21, 1961 - Oct 19, 1961
US Army June 18, 1962 - January 20, 1970
Whats that about 8-9 years?
My investigation also determined that rather than being an MI command (I
assume by MI you meant Military Intelligence or I guess you could try
and
spin the **** out of it and come up with something in MI that matches
recruiting) - your last assignment was that of a Field Recruiter at
Lancaster Pennsylvania.
Nigel Brooks
Doug's Rebuttal: First, your post above is a forgery. I removed that
post long ago and announced when I did the 30-year bit was a typo. I did
another search on my name and the phrase "30 years in the military" and
the post cannot be found on the Google archive. My God Brooks, is this
yet ANOTHER discarded typo post you and SteveL have removed from my
waste basket to try and defame and smear me with? BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Post reference:
<u3ig78sfq9s121@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Mr. Brooks, you have been told several times the "30 years" was a typo.
And you have also been told that my last assignment as a "Station
Commander" for a recruiting station dealt with MI issues that involved
undercover MI agents working in the schools around my Station. The SDS
were breaking into recruiting offices and doing other nasty things and
me dealing with the MI undercover guys was very im****tant at the time.
(Note that Sp4 Brooks lies about my military records and says I was only
a "Field Recruiter" at the Lancaster, Pa recruiting station. Yet my
records show I was officially titled the "Station Commander" of that
station, and I was also the ranking officer for all recruiting services,
US Army, Marines and Navy at that location. All of the undercover MI
guys (a PFC and A Sp4) received their instructions through me, and I
debriefed them on a regular basis. The intelligence they provided in
respect to when we could process our recruits without interference from
the SDS, and such information proved to be absolutely essential and
invaluable to all services recruiting in that area in 1969. Yes I was a
commander, and yes I did command MI issues and operatives.
The way to prove the "30 year" entry is a typo is to look for any repeat
of that 30-year statement, and also look for all the times I said 10
years (with reserve time) or nine years of service. You will not find
any repeat of 30 years ever, and when Brooks first brought up this typo
I told him then it was a typo and I removed the erred post from Google.
It appears that Mr. Brooks and SteveL have retrieved yet another one of
their forgeries taken directly out of my wastebasket. Talk about
unethical and fraudulent, could any two smear merchants be more obvious
that Sp4 Brooks and SteveL/Jim McCulloch?
Here are a couple of references to my last assignment that Sp4 Brooks is
clearly trying to hide - note also in this post I reveal where Jim
McCulloch was "rewriting what I had actually said" and was presenting
his own forgery rewrite as if I had said what he wrote in a previous
thread. This was common for SteveL and his SDS chums. October 2007
repeat: http://tinyurl.com/3nvy9d
http://tinyurl.com/4to7ks
"Also, Mr. Uy Uy knows that "Personnel Sergeants" never type up
anything. And my last assignment in the US Army was that of a Station
Commander of a Recruiting Station in Lancaster, Pa, designed for
recruiting and some MI work. I did not deal in personnel (but wait my
MOS still was that of a Personnel Senior NCO! - How can that be Mr. Uy
UY and Nigel Brooks laughingly claim that no Enlisted Personnel ever
perform duties outside of their primary MOS -of course anyone that was
ever in the US military knows that ridiculous claim is a lie).
12. Mr. Brooks, I will tell you what a lawyer told me recently about
your posts. He said that "reading your posts about me has become
somewhat of a game with him, as he knows somewhere in that post there
will be a lie, a fraud or a distortion of some kind - and it is getting
to be fun to find them." (Or words to that effect). Mr Brooks when your
posts are removed from the dregs, psychos and parrots that you insulate
yourself with on the newsgroup, and away from those that you have conned
into believing you due to all those fake Federal Agent claims, REAL
experts, lawyers, and even Web Managers shake their heads in utter
disbelief at your outrageous fraud, lies, forgeries, distortions and
categorical misrepresentations, not to mention your production of
slanted and clearly biased " evidence" to try and prove your defamation.
12-a. Some examples are: (1). You always try to use hearsay as evidence
against first hand witness accounts to defame the first hand witness.
You have not only done this to me, but to several other people that
tried to post their experiences on this newsgroup. You have a pattern of
using fraud and hearsay to defame people, and your gang chimes in on
your fraud so they can "howl down" the truth with absolute hearsay
bull****. That act alone has experts in investigation and the law
shaking their heads in utter disbelief.
(2) If any hard evidence proves you wrong, you snip it out of your
replies and try to hide it. Just like you snipped out all of those other
eyewitnesses to the 1969 Can Tho attack that contradicted your hearsay
version, and agreed with me that more than just satchel charges were
used, and there were vehicles involved in the attack. Instead of
accepting the fact that other eyewitnesses have confirmed what I said,
you tried to hide it.
(3) You absolutely LOVE typos, errors, and such because of course they
can be exploited and distorted into something the author clearly did not
mean to convey, and therefore you can fraudulently make the author seem
like he was saying something preposterous, false or idiotic. You even
dig posts out of an author's waste basked and present them on USENET as
an "intentional" posting on USENET. My experts also cannot believe you
would try to con the readers into believing that a post removed for
error was intentional, and the corrected version was the false and erred
post! No one but your goons could be stupid enough to believe such
obvious bull**** Mr. Brooks. You also hide and completely ignore any
previous statements by any author explaining or correcting a typo, error
or statement you are trying to distort and fraudulently misrepresent as
an intentional statement by that Author.
(4). You LOVE to forge your own context or misrepresentation into
someone else's post so you can alter the context and then use your own
forgery to defame and smear your target victim. Just like you forged the
terms (2nd Lieutenant) into my Butter Bar post even after I told you
that was not what I meant, and when you forged the term Medal into my
typist's PH Card post that was long discarded in a waste basket for an
error, and now you have again retrieved a long discarded post with a
typo of "30 years" from my waste basket, knowing I told you long ago the
"30" was a typo and that post was discarded, so you can use outright
fraud to try and defame me further. You are again digging around in my
waste basket for errors you can falsely use to defame and smear me - do
you realize how sick that sounds to real and honest investigators Mr.
Brooks?
(5). You try to claim that everything under my account was written by
me, and when I presented you with not less than 71 previous Google
archived posts that proved you were lying, you then confessed that you
could not be sure if I had written anything you were defaming me for.
When I pointed out that confession meant your defamation was malicious
and the courts would see it that way, you hurriedly lied and said your
entire confession was nothing but sarcasm which was not evident anywhere
in your confession post, and considering it was posted in response to my
post containing 71 different archived post proving that others had used
my account to post, my lawyers believe you are lying through your teeth,
and they think they can prove that fact with even more of your posts.
(6). Your tactics of claiming you are going to review "official
government records" to prove your howls against your victims are true,
and then when those very records prove you lied, you distort,
misrepresent, lie some more, and hide all the entries in those records
that prove your lied through your teeth about your victims' past
military service. You said I performed nothing but Personnel Sergeant
duties in Vietnam, you lied. You said I was assigned to the 1/27th as a
Personnel Sergeant, you lied. You hid my second assignment in the 25th.
You said I was assigned from the 25th to the 51st Maintenance Company in
Can Tho for duty, that is a lie. You said I performed duty for the 51st
Maintenance company and you tried to find how many casualties that unit
incurred, but you know I did not perform duty for that company. You also
lied about me being reassigned out of Can Tho for the last two months I
was in Vietnam. You lied about my reassignment to the states, you lied
about my discharge, you lied about my MOS, you lied about my general
duties in Vietnam, (there were NO personnel offices in Can Tho you
screaming moron) you lied and distorted and hid and omitted anything
that would prove you have been lying about me all along.
All this is what is going to the experts and to the courts if you do not
find another target smear victim to lie about Mr. Brooks. And you call
me a "bull****er?" BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA.
Doug Grant (Tm)
"tankfixer" <paul.carrier@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> On Sun, 4 May 2008 12:46:47 -0700, "DGVREIMAN"
>> <dgvreiman@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> wrote:
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>> >, could any two smear merchants be more obvious
>> >that Sp4 Brooks and SteveL/Jim McCulloch?
>> \
Snip Cyberstalking.
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