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Re: Obama is only the messenger.

by MACK DADDY <pepsivanilla@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 8, 2008 at 09:58 PM

On May 8, 11:58=A0am, Fenwick Arms <kitc...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> eldorado wrote:
> > =A0Riki Tiki Tavi <ti...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> repeating republican talking
> > points stated:
>
> >> I'm talking about why Canucks stream south to get surgery HERE!
>
> > The question should also be asked why so many Americans stream north
for=

> > healthcare?
>
> They don't, you s***bag liar:
>
> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,300939,00.html
>
> Mothers in British Columbia are having a baby boom, but it's the United
> States that has to deliver, and that has some proud Canadians blasting
> their highly touted government healthcare system.
>
> "I'm a born-bred Canadian, as well as my daughter and son, and I'm
> ashamed," Jill Irvine told FOX News. Irvine's daughter, Carri Ash, is
> one of at least 40 mothers or their babies who've been airlifted from
> British Columbia to the U.S. this year because Canadian hospitals didn't
> have room for the preemies in their neonatal units.
>
> "It's a big number and bigger than the previous capacity of the system
> to deal with it," said Adrian Dix, a British Columbia legislator, told
> FOXNews.com. "So when that happens, you can't have a waiting list for a
> mother having the baby. She just has the baby."
>
> The mothers have been flown to hospitals in Seattle, Everett, Wash., and
> Spokane, Wash., to receive treatment, as well as hospitals in the
> neighboring province of Alberta, Dix said. Three mothers were airlifted
> in the first weekend of October alone, including Carri Ash.
>
> "I just want to go home and see my kids," she said from her Seattle
> hospital bed. "I think it's stupid I have to be here."
>
> Canada's socialized health care system, hailed as a model by Michael
> Moore in his do***entary, "Sicko," is hurting, government officials
> admit, citing not enough money for more equipment and staff to handle
> high risk births.
>
> Sarah Plank, a spokeswoman for the British Columbia Ministry of Health,
> said a spike in high risk and premature births coupled with the lack of
> trained nurses prompted the surge in mothers heading across the border
> for better care.
>
> "The number of transfers in previous years has been quite low," Plank
> told FOXNews.com. "Before this recent spike we went for more than a year
> with no transfers to the U.S., so this is something that is happening in
> other provinces as well."
>
> Critics say these border crossings highlight the dangers of a
> government-run health care system.
>
> "The Canadian healthcare system has used the United States as a safety
> net for years," said Michael Turner of the Cato Institute. "In fact,
> overall about one out of every seven Canadian physicians sends someone
> to the United States every year for treatment."
>
> http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/09/03/canadians-running-to-us-for-he...
>
> Canadians Running to U.S. for Health Care
> Canada, we are constantly being told by single-payer advocates, is a
> model social democracy with a medical delivery system that we should
> envy. Oddly, the people who make such claims never want to answer a
> question that Bill Steigerwald reiterates in a recent column:
>
> If Canada=92s national health care system is so dang wonderful, why are
so=

> many Canadians coming to America to pay for their own medical care?
>
> And it=92s not only pregnant women, like the one who recently had to
drive=

> to Montana to have her baby, who cross into the U.S. on a daily basis
> seeking health care. Thus, Steigerwald inquires further:
>
> Why is the hip replacement center of Canada in Ohio=96at the Cleveland
> Clinic, where 10% of its international patients are Canadians =85 Why is
> Brain and Spine Center in Buffalo serving about 10 border-crossing
> Canadians a week?
>
> By way of answering his own questions, Steigerwald provides the
> following datum:
>
> Number of Canadians on waiting lists for referrals to specialists or for
> medical services=96875,000.
>
> It would appear that Canadians with sufficient financial means are
> seeking medical treatment in a country where such waiting lists exist
> only in the the fond dreams of single-payer advocates.
>
> And what about the Canadians who don=92t have the money to come here for
> care? I guess they just pray that their illnesses don=92t kill them
before=

> the vaunted Canadian system can fit them in.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You still failed to address the people from the US  who drive or fly
to Canada for health care.  I knew a guy who got cancer treatment up
there.  He is a retired Army man, 20 years, and the damn veterans
hospital wasn't helping him.  Finally after getting treated in Canada
he is healthy!
 




 14 Posts in Topic:
Re: Obama is only the messenger.
eldorado <eldorado@[EM  2008-05-08 13:38:02 
Re: Obama is only the messenger.
Fenwick Arms <kitchen@  2008-05-08 18:58:52 
Re: Obama is only the messenger.
Yer Pal Al <Caddyshack  2008-05-08 16:18:44 
Re: Obama is only the messenger.
MACK DADDY <pepsivanil  2008-05-08 21:58:13 
Re: Obama is only the messenger.
Fenwick Arms <kitchen@  2008-05-09 05:22:54 
Re: Obama is only the messenger.
eldorado <eldorado@[EM  2008-05-09 07:56:50 
Re: Obama is only the messenger.
Hound Adams <tap@[EMAI  2008-05-09 17:24:48 
Re: Obama is only the messenger.
Yer Pal Al <Caddyshack  2008-05-09 07:59:25 
Re: Obama is only the messenger.
Yer Pal Al <Caddyshack  2008-05-09 08:26:10 
Re: Obama is only the messenger.
SMITH29 <smith29@[EMAI  2008-05-08 18:50:11 
Re: Obama is only the messenger.
MACK DADDY <pepsivanil  2008-05-08 21:53:53 
Re: Obama is only the messenger.
Fenwick Arms <kitchen@  2008-05-09 05:22:40 
Re: Obama is only the messenger.
Yer Pal Al <Caddyshack  2008-05-09 07:51:00 
Re: Obama is only the messenger.
SMITH29 <smith29@[EMAI  2008-05-09 11:58:49 

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