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Re: Declaration Of Independence--Study It.

by "OneTwoThree" <youare@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 4, 2008 at 11:18 AM

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first off, the Declaration is NOT a do***ent of governance. It is a =
justification (some might say "rationalization" ) of the fight for =
independence to foreign nations, as a part of  a propaganda campaign.

Let's just look at a couple of things:

The list of complaints against the king of England - can anyone other =
than those who desire the overthrow of our own government in favor of a =
socialist system state truthfully that the government of the united =
states is engaged in these activities?

just one example: He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for =
the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their =
salaries.

who is it who demands litmus test for judges, and if candidates do not =
fit the leftist mold and profess that they will rule according to the =
leftist agenda, refuse to confirms?

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of =
Officers to harass our People, and eat out their substance.

who is it who demands more bureaucracies with more control over the =
lives of so many more?

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection =
and waging War against us.

who is it who work tirelessly for a nanny state (controlled by them, of =
course) at the expense of working people?

That aside, the Declaration contains no elements of governance. There =
are elements that are contained in the bill of rights, which the left =
wants to destroy. ( end of free speech by regulating content especially =
on talk radio, elimination of the second amendment, end of freedom of =
religion, end of states rights, application of rights in criminal =
procedures to enemy combatants on the battlefield, etc.

The constitution is the operating do***ent in this country. The =
declaration is interesting, but it points out more about the left and =
the dangers of the left, if they have their way destroying the =
constitution.


  "William Flax" <krtq73aa@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message =
news:YFqbk.12048$jI5.3426@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  It is not my intention to spoil anyone's parade, today.  But honor =
suggests that one dissent from the idea that Americans have anything to =
celebrate, July 4, 2008.  For those who understand what today is =
supposed to commemorate, the signing of the Declaration Of Independence, =
it must rather be seen as a day for deep soul searching, followed by =
rededication for those who have what it takes to challenge what has been =
happening.

  The day should best start with a rereading of the Declaration:  =
http://pages.prodigy.net/krtq73aa/declare.htm.
=20

  Then take a little while to think about what you have read; about the =
brave and intelligent men, who signed it.  Offer a prayer of thanks, =
that there once were such brave and intelligent men!  Consider what they =
would think about our present politics; our culture of dependence upon a =
Government far bigger and far more remote from the individual American =
than was the Government rejected 232 years ago; our betrayal by =
politicians urging ever greater involvement with international =
movements, that threaten the individuality of every Nation; those that =
seek to pretend that all peoples are interchangeable--an absolute =
absurdity, being virtually taught in a public school system, that has =
almost totally forgotten what the American Revolution was actually =
about; what the Founding Fathers actually believed.  Consider that we =
are further betrayed by a Federal Government, that seems absolutely =
incapable of any real or sustained effort to preserve the lands and =
resources of the American people for their own posterity.

  Two days ago, we posted a brief note in several news groups on the =
subject of Senator Obama, as an "accidental American."  Several of his =
sup****ters were quick to take umbrage.  But our point was not Obama, =
himself, but the loss of an American identity that was so severe, that =
the normal gossip, which one would expect, where one whose father was =
merely passing through, had been nominated by our oldest political party =
for President, was not in evidence.  Of course, we were not trying to =
elevate gossip, itself, as a virtue.  But a study of the things that =
people gossip about, tells one a lot about the psychology of a given =
people, at a given moment in time.

  We are further adrift, than most mainstream Americans want to admit.

  Have a soul searching Fourth!!

  Bill Flax
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>first off, the Declaration is NOT a =
do***ent of=20
governance. It is a justification (some might say "rationalization" ) of =
the=20
fight for independence to foreign nations, as a part of&nbsp; a =
propaganda=20
campaign.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Let's just look at a couple of =
things:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The list of complaints against the king =
of England=20
- can anyone other than those who desire the overthrow of our own =
government in=20
favor of a socialist system state truthfully that the government of the =
united=20
states is engaged in these activities?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>just one example: <FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3>He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure =
of their=20
offices, and the amount and payment of their =
salaries.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>who is it who demands litmus test for =
judges, and=20
if candidates do not fit the leftist mold and profess that they will =
rule=20
according to the leftist agenda, refuse to confirms?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms =
of=20
Officers to harass our People, and eat out their substance.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>who is it who demands more =
bureaucracies with more=20
control over the lives of so many more?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his =
Protection and=20
waging War against us.</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>who is it who work tirelessly for a =
nanny state=20
(controlled by them, of course) at the expense of working =
people?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That aside, the Declaration contains no =
elements of=20
governance. There are elements that are contained in the bill of rights, =
which=20
the left wants to destroy. ( end of free speech by regulating content =
especially=20
on talk radio, elimination of the second amendment, end of freedom of =
religion,=20
end of states rights, application of rights in criminal procedures to =
enemy=20
combatants on the battlefield, etc.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The constitution is the operating =
do***ent in this=20
country. The declaration is interesting, but it points out more about =
the left=20
and the dangers of the left, if they have their way destroying the=20
constitution.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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  <DIV>"William Flax" &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:krtq73aa@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
">krtq73aa@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>&gt; =
wrote in=20
  message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:YFqbk.12048$jI5.3426@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
">news:YFqbk.12048$=
jI5.3426@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>...</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It is&nbsp;not my intention to spoil =
anyone's=20
  parade, today.&nbsp; But honor suggests that one dissent from the idea =
that=20
  Americans have anything to celebrate, July 4, 2008.&nbsp; For those =
who=20
  understand what today is supposed to commemorate, the signing of the=20
  Declaration Of Independence, it must rather be seen as a day for deep =
soul=20
  searching, followed by rededication for those who have what it takes =
to=20
  challenge what has been happening.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The day should best start with a =
rereading of the=20
  Declaration:&nbsp; <A=20
  =
href=3D"http://pages.prodigy.net/krtq73aa/declare.htm">http://pages.prodi=
gy.net/krtq73aa/declare.htm</A>.</FONT>&nbsp;=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Then take a little while to think =
about what you=20
  have read; about the brave and intelligent men, who signed it.&nbsp; =
Offer a=20
  prayer of thanks, that there once were such brave and intelligent =
men!&nbsp;=20
  Consider what they would think about our present politics; our culture =
of=20
  dependence upon a Government far bigger and far more remote from the=20
  individual American than was the Government rejected 232 years ago; =
our=20
  betrayal by politicians urging ever greater involvement with =
international=20
  movements, that threaten the individuality of every Nation; those that =
seek to=20
  pretend that all peoples are interchangeable--an absolute absurdity, =
being=20
  virtually taught in a public school system, that has almost totally =
forgotten=20
  what the American Revolution was actually about; what the Founding =
Fathers=20
  actually believed.&nbsp; Consider that we are further betrayed by a =
Federal=20
  Government, that seems absolutely incapable of any real or sustained =
effort=20
  to&nbsp;preserve the lands and resources of the American people for =
their own=20
  posterity.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Two days ago, we posted a brief note =
in several=20
  news groups on the subject of Senator Obama, as an "accidental=20
  American."&nbsp; Several of his sup****ters were quick to take =
umbrage.&nbsp;=20
  But our point was not Obama, himself, but the loss of an American =
identity=20
  that was so severe, that the normal gossip, which one would expect, =
where one=20
  whose father was merely passing through, had been nominated by our =
oldest=20
  political party for President, was not in evidence.&nbsp; Of course, =
we were=20
  not trying to elevate gossip, itself, as a virtue.&nbsp; But a study =
of the=20
  things that people gossip about, tells one a lot about the psychology =
of a=20
  given people, at a given moment in time.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>We are further adrift, than most =
mainstream=20
  Americans want to admit.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Have a soul searching =
Fourth!!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bill =
Flax</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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 16 Posts in Topic:
Declaration Of Independence--Study It.
"William Flax"   2008-07-04 10:38:56 
Re: Declaration Of Independence--Study It.
"OneTwoThree" &  2008-07-04 11:18:19 
Re: Declaration Of Independence--Study It.
"William Flax"   2008-07-04 18:25:30 
Re: Declaration Of Independence--Study It.
"Kickin' Ass and Tak  2008-07-04 15:32:00 
Re: Declaration Of Independence--Study It.
"Mr.Smartypants"  2008-07-04 17:53:17 
Re: Declaration Of Independence--Study It.
PseuDoeCyAnts <pseudoc  2008-07-06 18:07:25 
Re: Declaration Of Independence--Study It.
"OneTwoThree" &  2008-07-07 00:21:14 
Re: Declaration Of Independence--Study It.
PseuDoeCyAnts <pseudoc  2008-07-07 19:57:57 
Re: Declaration Of Independence--Study It.
"OneTwoThree" &  2008-07-07 22:42:27 
Re: Declaration Of Independence--Study It.
PseuDoeCyAnts <pseudoc  2008-07-07 19:58:03 
Re: Declaration Of Independence--Study It.
"OneTwoThree" &  2008-07-07 22:43:07 
Re: Declaration Of Independence--Study It.
PseuDoeCyAnts <pseudoc  2008-07-07 19:58:39 
Re: Declaration Of Independence--Study It.
"OneTwoThree" &  2008-07-07 22:43:47 
Re: Declaration Of Independence--Study It.
PseuDoeCyAnts <pseudoc  2008-07-07 20:07:56 
Re: Declaration Of Independence--Study It.
cary@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-07-07 16:48:05 
Re: Declaration Of Independence--Study It.
ZerkonX <Z@[EMAIL PROT  2008-07-12 12:46:26 

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