On Jul 5, 8:32=A0am, "Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names"
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> On Jul 4, 6:25=A0pm, "William Flax" <krtq7...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > What we celebrate, today, is the Declaration of Independence. =A0It
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sets forth our philosophy of Government--strictly limited by compact &
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tion. =A0It reiterates ancient principles, found also in the Magna Carta.
> > =A0 "OneTwoThree" <you...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > =A0 first off, the Declaration is NOT a do***ent of governance. It is
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justification (some might say "rationalization" ) of the fight for
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dence to foreign nations, as a part of =A0a propaganda campaign.
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> > =A0 Let's just look at a couple of things:
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> > =A0 The list of complaints against the king of England - can anyone
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er than those who desire the overthrow of our own government in favor of a
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socialist system state truthfully that the government of the united states
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is engaged in these activities?
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> > =A0 just one example: He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone,
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or the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their
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s.
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> > =A0 who is it who demands litmus test for judges, and if candidates do
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not fit the leftist mold and profess that they will rule according to the
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eftist agenda, refuse to confirms?
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> > =A0 He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms
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f Officers to harass our People, and eat out their substance.
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> > =A0 who is it who demands more bureaucracies with more control over
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lives of so many more?
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> > =A0 He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his
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tion and waging War against us.
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> > =A0 who is it who work tirelessly for a nanny state (controlled by
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, of course) at the expense of working people?
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> > =A0 That aside, the Declaration contains no elements of governance.
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re are elements that are contained in the bill of rights, which the left
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nts to destroy. ( end of free speech by regulating content especially on
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lk radio, elimination of the second amendment, end of freedom of religion,
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end of states rights, application of rights in criminal procedures to
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combatants on the battlefield, etc.
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> > =A0 The constitution is the operating do***ent in this country. The
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laration is interesting, but it points out more about the left and the
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ers of the left, if they have their way destroying the constitution.
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> > =A0 =A0 "William Flax" <krtq7...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > =A0 =A0 It is not my intention to spoil anyone's parade, today. =A0But
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honor suggests that one dissent from the idea that Americans have anything
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to celebrate, July 4, 2008. =A0For those who understand what today is
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sed to commemorate, the signing of the Declaration Of Independence, it
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rather be seen as a day for deep soul searching, followed by rededication
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for those who have what it takes to challenge what has been happening.
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> > =A0 =A0 The day should best start with a rereading of the Declaration:
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=A0http://pages.prodigy.net/krtq73aa/declare.htm.
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> > =A0 =A0 Then take a little while to think about what you have read;
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ut the brave and intelligent men, who signed it. =A0Offer a prayer of
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s, that there once were such brave and intelligent men! =A0Consider what
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ey would think about our present politics; our culture of dependence upon
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Government far bigger and far more remote from the individual American
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n was the Government rejected 232 years ago; our betrayal by politicians
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ging ever greater involvement with international movements, that threaten
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he individuality of every Nation; those that seek to pretend that all
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es are interchangeable--an absolute absurdity, being virtually taught in a
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public school system, that has almost totally forgotten what the American
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evolution was actually about; what the Founding Fathers actually believed.
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=A0Consider that we are further betrayed by a Federal Government, that
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s absolutely incapable of any real or sustained effort to preserve the
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s and resources of the American people for their own posterity.
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> > =A0 =A0 Two days ago, we posted a brief note in several news groups on
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the subject of Senator Obama, as an "accidental American." =A0Several of
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s sup****ters were quick to take umbrage. =A0But our point was not Obama,
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mself, but the loss of an American identity that was so severe, that the
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rmal gossip, which one would expect, where one whose father was merely
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ing through, had been nominated by our oldest political party for
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, was not in evidence. =A0Of course, we were not trying to elevate gossip,
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itself, as a virtue. =A0But a study of the things that people gossip
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tells one a lot about the psychology of a given people, at a given moment
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in time.
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> > =A0 =A0 We are further adrift, than most mainstream Americans want to
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dmit.
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> > =A0 =A0 Have a soul searching Fourth!!
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> > =A0 =A0 Bill Flax
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> You say: ". . . But our point was not Obama, himself, but the loss of
> an American identity . . . "
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> And exactly what would that "American identity" be?
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> Seems to me that each of us is defined not by what our parents were
> but by what each of us is, individually, ourselves.
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> So what if Senator Obama's father was "passing through."
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> Obama is not "passing through." =A0He is as much an American as anyone
> else in this country -- and more of an American than many I can think
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LOL!!!
He proved he's certainly mainstream presedential material by flip-
flopping on bringing the troops home from Iraq.
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